Which, Damdred, most of us have done. When I say "confirmed" I mean someone we definitely actually know is town, generally based on a read. Not a subjective evaluation on what people say.
You can tell if someone is towny the way they approach the game how they view the game how they respond to the game.
If you rely on people being "confirmed" by cop checks you will lose the game. I am confirmed town because I know my role, I have put forth effort I have been wrong on several occasions I have re-evaluated the game at every ime or tried to. That is actual town behavior.
Fair enough. I'm still lumping you in with people who need to actually be considered as possibly mafia rather than people we definitely know are town based on cop checks though. Surely you can understand that.
To be honest, I do agree with you Glo. Unreliable seems more likely than Damdred, despite this assuming he's in the clear because he likes to talk -amused-.
Really, Unreliable, it's absurdly unlikely either way. For all to interact, or for all to select the same person to protect/try to kill. Yet one of those two things had to happen. -shrugs-
I'm still entitled to my opinion. If you haven't noticed, we're rather thin on players now.
Alright, well, despite how much Damdred hates this, I'm still on govt payroll and required to show up to work.
Damdred, I've been busting your balls, but I stand by my assessment of you when Loaf was "throwing sand in everyone's eyes". You don't make sense as mafia to me.
Which just leaves Unreliable. However, Unreliable...I have been saying that I think you're mafia for awhile now...at least as far back as when we lynched TMonsta...so I'm not pulling it out of my ass as you so kindly suggest. You've spoken some this round but contributed little that wasn't already said by someone else.
Really, Unreliable, it's absurdly unlikely either way. For all to interact, or for all to select the same person to protect/try to kill. Yet one of those two things had to happen. -shrugs-
I'm still entitled to my opinion. If you haven't noticed, we're rather thin on players now.
the thing is, we will just point fingers at each other, come up with arguments to accuse the other (he lynched joe here, jack there, tried to save moe then, etc...) We are not confirmed good = We are both liars
try saying good things about yourself, verifiable things, not just your opinion. you are not voting for yourself or against me, you are supposedly voting for town.
I'm sure i was very productive to town, since the miller debate, in which you didnt participate, even though you were posting there and i called you into the debate. (see, easy to accuse)
now its up to both good to make an assessment and get into an agreement, because they have no reason to lie or trick each other.
As I'm apparently the only one who doesn't accept "acting townie" as confirmed townie, I was explaining my vote for you over Damdred.
I do not feel the need to justify/defend myself. You all have seen me play. You've read what I've said, and I've been free with my opinions and explanations.
Though if you do want a reason as to why I didn't participate in the so-called "miller debate," I made my position on it clear early on:
problem i see is, since cop cant spy miller, what keeps mafia from claiming the role?
Sorry Glo. I can't really help you. Damdred does bother me at times, but the fact that right after he realized that Mages was the miller, the miller died...doesn't seem like something mafia would do. No one else picked up on that miller spelling. At least no one seemed to. I know I sure didn't. That's all I'm really basing my vote on, sadly.
If you do decide you prefer Damdred and need my support I am willing to change my vote. I just feel like Unreliable is more likely. (And yes, given my track record...going with what I feel may be a mistake, lol).
I agree about the miller thing, I think I even said that earlier at some point, and lol hey, it's our track record. Last time I trusted someone like I trust you they turned out to be mafia. Let's see if that becomes a thing
Only because he's always been so insistent that we talk things over in the past. xP Which more or less makes your point, doesn't it? (Aza expressed suspicion of both of you. Nice try, though.)
Okay, so I know I'm flip-flopping here...but between the silence from Mr. Let'sTalkItOut today, his last-ditch effort to throw the vote on me yesterday w/ no given reason, his deliberately leaving Phantom out of his assessment, his continued insistence that he is confirmed when he is not...
And yes, Unreliable, though Aza did mention all of us, that Aza was questioning Damdred last night and Glo said he thought it was you, so your argument did sway me.
I went back through the posts again. Found these on the 16th and 17th. If Unreliable was going to flip on Phantom, he wouldn't have that early if he was mafia. That's how it seems to me.
super valid reason...though i'd rather kill phantom first and have him spied on... though if he is godfather, this will give him chance to spy one more person...
i think phantom is definitely mafia, and if he dies first, it gives blocker a chance to find the second one sooner than later
and stop demanding so much of me! this is the farthest i got into a ww game...
Meadows- Blank slate, as always (rip today?)
Phantom- 70% Suspect TMonsta- 50% Suspect gl0stix- 30% Suspect rsoultin- 10% Suspect Loafery- 10% Suspect Azalieo- 1000% Good (due to sky spy) Unreliable- 100% Good (who wouldnt selfclaim good?) Damdred- 100% Good (conditional reasons) SkyDragonX- 100% Cop Cory- 100% Good (reasons) Darubian- 100% Good (reasons)
if i were to pick order of people to die...either by contribution or weird sayings...
Lol, that's what we've been saying about Darubian "clearing" Damdred all along, Unreliable. That it's far more likely they hit the 3rd brother than that mafia happened to target the same target that the doctor protected.
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If you rely on people being "confirmed" by cop checks you will lose the game. I am confirmed town because I know my role, I have put forth effort I have been wrong on several occasions I have re-evaluated the game at every ime or tried to. That is actual town behavior.
i've said more than once that damdred is town...math says anything otherwise is absurdly unlikely. This is logic, not subjective evaluation.
my exact pages ago observation: "what are the odds all roles interacted with each other day one?"
are you gonna risk the game on that?
rsoultin, you dont get to point fingers...its easy accuse the only other suspect left.
Azalieo a Vanilla Town was killed
Day time begins
I'm still entitled to my opinion. If you haven't noticed, we're rather thin on players now.
Damdred, I've been busting your balls, but I stand by my assessment of you when Loaf was "throwing sand in everyone's eyes". You don't make sense as mafia to me.
Which just leaves Unreliable. However, Unreliable...I have been saying that I think you're mafia for awhile now...at least as far back as when we lynched TMonsta...so I'm not pulling it out of my ass as you so kindly suggest. You've spoken some this round but contributed little that wasn't already said by someone else.
So that's why I'm voting this way.
##vote: Unreliable
We are not confirmed good = We are both liars
try saying good things about yourself, verifiable things, not just your opinion.
you are not voting for yourself or against me, you are supposedly voting for town.
##vote rsoultin
now its up to both good to make an assessment and get into an agreement, because they have no reason to lie or trick each other.
I do not feel the need to justify/defend myself. You all have seen me play. You've read what I've said, and I've been free with my opinions and explanations.
Though if you do want a reason as to why I didn't participate in the so-called "miller debate," I made my position on it clear early on:
I must admit there's a chance it's Damdred. I actually kinda want to vote him just so we can at least say we didn't get long conned.
##unvote
And the doctor DID die right after he hinted his role to damdred, but that was pretty obvious so any mafia could have picked up on it.
If you do decide you prefer Damdred and need my support I am willing to change my vote. I just feel like Unreliable is more likely. (And yes, given my track record...going with what I feel may be a mistake, lol).
##vote unreliable
(he's the first to 2 in case of a tie)
Wrong is possible, though.
meh
last thing i have left to say is, i wouldnt kill the only guy not suspicious of me (or would i?)
That is why I'm poking at him, after all.
And yes, Unreliable, though Aza did mention all of us, that Aza was questioning Damdred last night and Glo said he thought it was you, so your argument did sway me.
I went back through the posts again. Found these on the 16th and 17th. If Unreliable was going to flip on Phantom, he wouldn't have that early if he was mafia. That's how it seems to me. So yes, I'm changing my vote.
unvote
##vote: Damdred
0,54% chance mafia hit protected target (1/13 x 1/14)
wtf, is this right?