When Tonchen cites Marbury vs. Madison in discussing how no Constitutional clause can be "without effect" and thus he requires a further interpretation of "within jurisdiction" within the 14th amendment, he ignores the possibility of areas of the United States that the U.S. does NOT indeed hold jurisdiction.
Anyways, it's way too long of a read for me to care. The guy spent most of his formal education and young career in America: I don't doubt the legal validity of the challenges, I just don't think they weigh enough importance into the fabric of America to throw out the majority winner of a whole country's vote.
Scary job, but it looks awesome when done. I'd love to be able to visit that.
Very cool. I'm not sure about the scary part though, it looks like the ones doing the most dangerous parts are harnessed and at any rate given the length of the path one would get accustomed to the job rather quickly...
I've been considering investing in Great Wall Motor Co. for a few months now - the only thing I'm concerned about is the lack of transparency in these Chinese companies. They're starting to sell automobiles in the EU and, if history has taught us anything, emerging markets that make lower-quality products while making a profit will start making higher-quality products due to new research and development, manufacturing practices, business theory, etc. Japan and the US are great examples [Japan used to be considered the current-day cheap Chinese product...now, not so much]
I have a nice stash saved up and may put a chunk of it into this company and let it sit there.
I've been considering investing in Great Wall Motor Co. for a few months now - the only thing I'm concerned about is the lack of transparency in these Chinese companies. They're starting to sell automobiles in the EU and, if history has taught us anything, emerging markets that make lower-quality products while making a profit will start making higher-quality products due to new research and development, manufacturing practices, business theory, etc. Japan and the US are great examples [Japan used to be considered the current-day cheap Chinese product...now, not so much]
I have a nice stash saved up and may put a chunk of it into this company and let it sit there.
I can tell you from personal experience GW motors is actually pretty decent, at least in China it is. Compared to more popular companies like Chery, its much safer and well respected. You're always going to get transparency issues. Trust me, the GW cars in EU will be much higher quality than its competitors, usually emerging markets don't want to seem shoddy so they put extra effort in impressing potential customers in more developed countries especially as China has a terrible record for electronic products. I'm Chinese and occasionally work for my Dad in an international consultancy company specialising on M&A of Chinese corporations. Plus I'm Chinese hehehehe so ask me about this shiz.
Haven't really thought about it Ixta. For all intents and purposes I suppose I would. Something that is yours, that somebody else takes... doesn't need to be material for it to be theft imo.
"Yesterday, President Obama completely ignored a court subpoena, and the world shrugged."
*shrugs* They're beating a dead horse here, Dank. I know you're not going to like me saying this, but whether they (or you) like it or not, this issue was settled 4 years ago. It's a bit late to challenge his eligibility after he's already had the job for a term.
wondering why this wasnt checked before now... its not as though it takes long, candidates should go through a process that proves things like this beforehand.
I've been considering investing in Great Wall Motor Co. for a few months now - the only thing I'm concerned about is the lack of transparency in these Chinese companies. They're starting to sell automobiles in the EU and, if history has taught us anything, emerging markets that make lower-quality products while making a profit will start making higher-quality products due to new research and development, manufacturing practices, business theory, etc. Japan and the US are great examples [Japan used to be considered the current-day cheap Chinese product...now, not so much]
I have a nice stash saved up and may put a chunk of it into this company and let it sit there.
I can tell you from personal experience GW motors is actually pretty decent, at least in China it is. Compared to more popular companies like Chery, its much safer and well respected. You're always going to get transparency issues. Trust me, the GW cars in EU will be much higher quality than its competitors, usually emerging markets don't want to seem shoddy so they put extra effort in impressing potential customers in more developed countries especially as China has a terrible record for electronic products. I'm Chinese and occasionally work for my Dad in an international consultancy company specialising on M&A of Chinese corporations. Plus I'm Chinese hehehehe so ask me about this shiz.
I know they started off with making lower-quality vehicles [as most new car companies do] and have evolved into a solid business. They launched in Europe in 2011 and increased their profit by 30%. Have you heard any word about launching in the US? I know that they've entered a partnership with a California-based CODA for their lithium-ion batteries.
Excerpt: "the CODA sedan promises consumers 120-150 real-world driving miles (193 to 241 km) per charge, according to the company. Fitted with a 6.6 kW onboard charger, it takes about 6 hours to fully charge from empty and 2 hours to charge for an average 40-mile (64 km) commute."
Coupled with shrewd Chinese business practices, I suspect that this company will be booming within the next 10-20 years as more and more consumers go for the "green" vehicles and governments push for higher and higher emissions standards.
They're beating a dead horse here, Dank. I know you're not going to like me saying this, but whether they (or you) like it or not, this issue was settled 4 years ago. It's a bit late to challenge his eligibility after he's already had the job for a term.
No, not at all you are entitled to your opinion. The issue was not settled that is why this was in court. Chester A. Arthur was the first president to pull this, and he got away with it. Feel free to research it. If the rule is unjust then why do we keep it? It's something that needs to be fixed or enforced. You could potentially use this to blackmail a President. Imagine if you did control the media and could make a huge stink about this how much power you would have. I'm not saying this is happening but that's just an example of why the law either needs changed, or upheld. Chester had to run around covering this up the whole time he was in office. It's definitely something that needed to be settled and finally it is.
I have to agree. For the President to deliberately say "fuck you" to the legal system, that sets a pretty piss poor example. I have no idea how he could be so stupid, who in their right mind would support a man who doesn't follow his own system o.O
It is indeed a piss poor example. Especially when you take into account his flag pin problems and not saluting. Luckily Malihi ruled in his favor and he can finally put this issue to rest.
I wasn't aware of Aurthur having any citizenship issues, but I looked it up, and it seems you are correct that it came up, although again, nothing was ever proven here. I don't see anything saying that he had to keep dealing with it in my quick search, but I don't doubt that, people being how they are. But it seems like he had more trouble with people worrying about corruption and political patronage stuff. There have been more candidates with potential issues in this citizenship area than I imagined though.
And I'm not trying to argue that the president should be above the law, but how many cases have there been like this already? When he has already been forced to deal with this same issues 20 times, and all the evidence has been hashed around, and all other cases dismissed, can you really blame him for ignoring what seems like an abuse of the legal system? Doesn't double jeopardy start to apply at some point here?
(Also, I think politically there's a point where he just has to ignore this kind of thing, or he'd start to undermine his own position because continuing to grant it too much attention would make it seem like they have a valid case to call him up on and he's being defensive about it, even when his whole point is that they don't.)
The article I read could have been misleading, but it said his office declined to comment, the person speaking for him declined to comment... to a judge... o.O? I can understand if media is pestering him, but if a judge orders him to be there the least his office could do is send a letter saying "This has been handled already and we aren't going to attend something that we've already attended before."
Maybe I'm wrong. I agree he shouldn't have to respond to every little quip on his legitimacy, but it just seems like a pretty bad idea.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did say Zeal. You read Dank's article, right? It's not like he completely ignored it. --------
In fact, after a failed attempt to have the subpoena quashed, Obama’s attorney Michael Jablonski sent a letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp on Jan. 25, the day before the hearing, requesting Kemp withdraw the hearing request.
Jablonski claimed the challenges to Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of president or run for reelection were based “on the now wholly discredited theory that he does not meet the citizenship requirements.”
Jablonski argued, “It is well established that there is no legitimate issue here – a conclusion validated time and time again by courts around the country,”
Claiming Kemp, as secretary of state, had no authority to determine the qualifications of someone named by a political party to be on the Presidential Preference Primary ballot, Jablonski stated Kemp also had no authority to hold hearings on qualifications.
Jablonski concluded his letter with, “We await your taking the requested action, and as we do, we will, of course, suspend further participation in these proceedings, including the hearing scheduled for Jan. 26.”
O_o What? Theft i could understand to an extent, but robbery? I'm not sure how that one works... Also, lol @ trying to sell it as up-market ice, though it's not a terrible idea by any stretch XD
Uh oh indeed. The lake drilling was something i've been keeping an eye on for a while now and it would be sad to see it fail so close to it's target. Though if the Americans know where the Russians are couldn't they just send someone out there? The antarctic summer isn't over quite yet...
Seems the drilling went successfully and there's been no mention of the earlier loss of contact so i'm wondering whether it was a genuine story or something minor blown out of proportion...
I seriously doubt the exercise came anywhere close to approximating a rhino escape. In the real thing crowds wouldn't be kept behind barriers and the rhino would be going much faster.
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Scary job, but it looks awesome when done. I'd love to be able to visit that.
It's illegal/unauthorized access, not theft.
Anyways, it's way too long of a read for me to care. The guy spent most of his formal education and young career in America: I don't doubt the legal validity of the challenges, I just don't think they weigh enough importance into the fabric of America to throw out the majority winner of a whole country's vote.
My uni on fire.
I have a nice stash saved up and may put a chunk of it into this company and let it sit there.
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2012/120201/frontpage-Obama.html
While awaiting Malihi’s ruling, Irion stated, ‘The world should be holding its breath.’
*shrugs*
They're beating a dead horse here, Dank. I know you're not going to like me saying this, but whether they (or you) like it or not, this issue was settled 4 years ago. It's a bit late to challenge his eligibility after he's already had the job for a term.
Stupid.
Excerpt: "the CODA sedan promises consumers 120-150 real-world driving miles (193 to 241 km) per charge, according to the company. Fitted with a 6.6 kW onboard charger, it takes about 6 hours to fully charge from empty and 2 hours to charge for an average 40-mile (64 km) commute."
Coupled with shrewd Chinese business practices, I suspect that this company will be booming within the next 10-20 years as more and more consumers go for the "green" vehicles and governments push for higher and higher emissions standards.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/44399
And I'm not trying to argue that the president should be above the law, but how many cases have there been like this already? When he has already been forced to deal with this same issues 20 times, and all the evidence has been hashed around, and all other cases dismissed, can you really blame him for ignoring what seems like an abuse of the legal system? Doesn't double jeopardy start to apply at some point here?
(Also, I think politically there's a point where he just has to ignore this kind of thing, or he'd start to undermine his own position because continuing to grant it too much attention would make it seem like they have a valid case to call him up on and he's being defensive about it, even when his whole point is that they don't.)
I can understand if media is pestering him, but if a judge orders him to be there the least his office could do is send a letter saying "This has been handled already and we aren't going to attend something that we've already attended before."
Maybe I'm wrong. I agree he shouldn't have to respond to every little quip on his legitimacy, but it just seems like a pretty bad idea.
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In fact, after a failed attempt to have the subpoena quashed, Obama’s attorney Michael Jablonski sent a letter to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp on Jan. 25, the day before the hearing, requesting Kemp withdraw the hearing request.
Jablonski claimed the challenges to Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of president or run for reelection were based “on the now wholly discredited theory that he does not meet the citizenship requirements.”
Jablonski argued, “It is well established that there is no legitimate issue here – a conclusion validated time and time again by courts around the country,”
Claiming Kemp, as secretary of state, had no authority to determine the qualifications of someone named by a political party to be on the Presidential Preference Primary ballot, Jablonski stated Kemp also had no authority to hold hearings on qualifications.
Jablonski concluded his letter with, “We await your taking the requested action, and as we do, we will, of course, suspend further participation in these proceedings, including the hearing scheduled for Jan. 26.”
Now he's under arrest for robbery.
O_o What? Theft i could understand to an extent, but robbery? I'm not sure how that one works... Also, lol @ trying to sell it as up-market ice, though it's not a terrible idea by any stretch XD
uh oh!
2012 here we come!
Anywho, this is just so bad it's funny!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16950361
I seriously doubt the exercise came anywhere close to approximating a rhino escape. In the real thing crowds wouldn't be kept behind barriers and the rhino would be going much faster.