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SOPA/PIPA

LewsTherinLewsTherin
edited January 2012 in General
Needed a discussion so I can rant....now to the floor......Oh noes, WIKIIIIII
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  • negneg
    no discussion needed

    your a movie pirate thats complaining you might not be able to pirate movies anymore

    welcome to using logic m8
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    Lol I dont live in the US. So :P. And im also an indie filmmaker so also, PAH.
  • negneg
    edited January 2012
    m8 you realise that all movies are automatically property of the MPAA

    if any of your movies hit the big time you'll need to pay them big royalties for protecting your movie

    it happened to my friends brothers uncles daughter
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    edited January 2012
    m8 you realise that all movies are automatically property of the MPAA

    if any of your movies hit the big time you'll need to pay them big royalties for protecting your movie

    it happened to my friends brothers uncles daughter
    bullshit right there. Only studios that sign on with MPAA have their movies automatically protected. Although I agree that encompasses 99% of all theatrical releases. Your friends brothers uncles daughter probably sought to have it distributed via the normal routes hence going through one of the large studios.

    If you want MPAA to protect, then of course you should pay royalties, otherwise dont moan when someone downloads your film and you dont have the legal/financial capabilites to take them to court.
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    edited January 2012
    And SOPA and MPAA are completely different, MPAA settle civil disputes, SOPA wants to make it into a criminal act, the problem is where to draw the line.

    And the fact that Murdoch is siding with this legislation as he believes it is the 'right thing to do'? That dirty cunt sides with this and then goes to hack the phones of dead school girls?
  • negneg
    i wonder if SOPA passes - will Starkingdoms be shut down since it's obviously a sub-par Star Wars rip off?
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    i wonder if SOPA passes - will Starkingdoms be shut down since it's obviously a sub-par Star Wars rip off?
    HAHAHAHA....take Bcart to court!
  • TyrsisTyrsis
    Too much gov control...
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    edited January 2012
    Too much gov control...
    Care to elaborate? Just might need it for my research dissertation.

    also:

    rupertmurdoch Rupert Murdoch
    Nonsense argument about danger to Internet. How about Google, others blocking porn, hate speech, etc? Internet hurt?
    9 hours ago

    rupertmurdoch Rupert Murdoch
    Piracy leader is Google who streams movies free, sells advts around them. No wonder pouring millions into lobbying.
    14 Jan

    on twitter...the old fag probably watches more porn than anyone else. He should stop his phone hacking and improve the quality of materials his media outlets release before questioning Google. And typical, his own fox news doesnt view this protest as news enough, of course biased as they are, and its bumped to like the 20th major news....with a small font line for it, and of course the content is heavily biased against Wiki and Google. Scum news reporting...neutral my ass...
  • NoSocialGroupNoSocialGroup
    SOPA gives private entities (a Qualifying Plaintiff) the ability to produce a cease and desist order towards any website that is, or facilitates, copywrite infringement - and the order must immediately be executed by that website (by removing the links and elements related to the possible infringement).

    A Qualifying Plaintiff is someone with a possible legal claim to copywrited works, and does not require a prior judicial hearing in order to produce this order.
  • lynoglynog
    1]If a website is shutdown because there is a a claim that a website is breaking copywrong laws, the website must fight it in court to get their website back online.

    2] Specific passage in the bill that states that whoever shuts down the website and the accuser will not be held liable if it's a claim that is found to be false.

    3] Webistes like google, twitter, facebook, reddit, et al. will be help legally and financially responsible for anything posted in comments, forums, advertisements of any website that is hosting said content, raising overhead costs to unimaginable levels.

    4] An easier solution is to add software to prevent copying software/video but instead this bill was introduced - costs these organizations less money and can be used to stifle competition by simply having them shut down while they battle the legal system, accrue legal costs and eventually cave.

    5] http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
  • TyrsisTyrsis
    I'm not the right person to ask Lews because unlike a majority of the people against SOPA I am not going to pretend I care enough to actually do something about it.
  • ScientologyScientology
    i wonder if SOPA passes - will Starkingdoms be shut down since it's obviously a sub-par Star Wars rip off?
    HAHAHAHA....take Bcart to court!
    He'd never show up, insta-win.

  • SanduskyclauseSanduskyclause
    Its 14$ for an adult ticket where I live, and netflix just raised their rate to have out 1 DVD a month.

    If the movie industry wants to kurb pirating, maybe they can start by not robbing the consumers.

    I love movies. Its one of my favorite things to do on a night out. Unfortunately, it is getting too expensive to do to make a habit out of, and it is hit or miss on what is going to be a good movie, or a couple of hours of unimaginative shit.

    More to the point, maybe the movie industry can go back to having previews that actually tell you what the movie is about instead of a bunch of random action/sex packed scenes with periodic one liner breaks.
  • negneg
    the quality of movies has gone way downhill

    its all about the effects and 3D shit now

    see -> star war remake, warhorse, titanic remake, transformers

    i like to call it the adam sandler effect. the movie industry has gotten worse with each new adam sandler movie
  • TyrsisTyrsis
    Its 14$ for an adult ticket where I live, and netflix just raised their rate to have out 1 DVD a month.

    If the movie industry wants to kurb pirating, maybe they can start by not robbing the consumers.

    I love movies. Its one of my favorite things to do on a night out. Unfortunately, it is getting too expensive to do to make a habit out of, and it is hit or miss on what is going to be a good movie, or a couple of hours of unimaginative shit.

    More to the point, maybe the movie industry can go back to having previews that actually tell you what the movie is about instead of a bunch of random action/sex packed scenes with periodic one liner breaks.
    Depends on where you go. I know a movie theater that plays movies for about $6 an adult ticket. Its great.
  • HyruleHyrule
    Every time I see SOPA & PIPA I think of sopapillas then I get sad because I don't have any.
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    I'm not the right person to ask Lews because unlike a majority of the people against SOPA I am not going to pretend I care enough to actually do something about it.
    Tyrsis baby what you wanna ask, go ahead.
  • GagazetSKGagazetSK
    Relevant to this discussion:

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399105,00.asp

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

    While i don't doubt most of it's traffic was driven by pirated content, it's still sad to see the site go down :(
  • NoSocialGroupNoSocialGroup
    Hey look, a large stab at piracy. Still with way too much overreach, and they did it without these pieces of legislation.
  • lynoglynog
  • lynoglynog
    edited January 2012
    In retaliation Warner Music Group, universal music, RIAA, MPAA, DOJ has been taken offline. More to follow.
  • lynoglynog
    FBI.gov is now down.
  • LewsTherinLewsTherin
    Fucking hell US government, wait for a solution. To quote a friend:

    The US gov really stepped over the online community. They stepped over all those people who presented well developed arguments against SOPA/PIPA. They really stepped over those who were trying to convince people in the Net that copyright holders' rights should also be respected.

    You see, regardless of any judicial safeguards, any legislative measure aimed at online piracy which involves access-restriction measures must be based on one crucial ingredient: trust. Trust that the government is not going to misuse this kind of power. This trust has to be grounded in evidence, that the government is worthy of our trust. As we can see, they are not.

    Concluding. To hell with site-blocking provisions of SOPA. To hell with site-blocking provisions of Protect IP Act. TO HELL WITH ANY FUTURE SITE-BLOCKING COPYRIGHT LEGISLATION.
  • lynoglynog
    This is being done under DMCA.
  • IxtaccihuatlIxtaccihuatl
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16603870
  • TyrsisTyrsis
    I'm not the right person to ask Lews because unlike a majority of the people against SOPA I am not going to pretend I care enough to actually do something about it.
    Tyrsis baby what you wanna ask, go ahead.
    I was saying I am not the right person for you to ask about my opinion since I don't really care.

  • SierraNevadaSierraNevada
    gay
  • GagazetSKGagazetSK
    http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/

    So the bills have officially been shelved, probably for the rest of the year minimum. Good.

    Also worth reading given it's multitude of links from what was apparently a very busy week on the internet:

    http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-timeline-january-blackout/
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