i think thats a problem everywhere in the world right now zeality
there is a lot of arguments here about how people want to rename "australia day" to "multicultralism day" and shit like that
they want the australian flag to be hidden at all times because it is offensive.
i think a lot of it is stories people have made up to try and push their agenda that immigrants are bad though
still i'd hate to think these people are coming to a foreign country and instead of adopting the culture or accepting it, they are pushing for their own
Nah neg, I've met these people myself. Many of em have gotten so comfortable with being accepted here that they want to make it like their homeland. Some stories could be fake, but I've met plenty of arrogant muslims, somalians and many more... they seem to forget they came to a war-less country that accepted them with open arms.
@Azalieo Talking about these knives in particular that they apparently wear, there was this 15 or 16 year old kid who brought a big blade... like at least 7 or 8" to school.
Some people seem to be looking at the amount of military personnel China has and automatically thinking they are the most powerful.
The USA would absolutely destroy China if it came to war. They may have millions of soldiers but barely have any shit to actually deploy them where needed besides the shitty outdated equipment they are buying from the Russians whereas USA has the most advanced equipment in the world and could actually get their military to the place where it could do damage. China can parade as many million solders as they want to look tough but do they really think any of those would get near America?
It's all about logistics, and we'd cut off their supply lines with mass bombs from stealth planes launched 15 mins from my house (in the middle of the country haha). We probably wouldn't have to invade China, we'd batter them in into submission with long range stuff.
They just seem like a big unknown factor to me, theyre so secretive and they keep getting caught hacking other countries secure shit. And the fact that their corporations are somehow being allowed to purchase solid energy holdings in our oilfield is sketchy.
Yes, recent history in Iraq and Afghanistan show that you can wage war by simply beating an enemy into submission from afar
To be fair though finding some shady individuals in remote mountain regions means usual tactics wont work haha. Full war with another country...USA would know exactly what targets need taking out and it wouldnt be a massive game of hide and seek.
PS: Whats up with the UK? Is nationalism in a full nose dive? Are things really THAT bad economically? I recently worked for a company that had clients all over the UK and the sentiment is almost universal- things are bad and I don't know why anyone would want to live here compared to some other western countries.
Its not a bad place to live. But when you hear about things like "flying the england flag offends muslims" etc ... People give USA shit for their MUURKKA attitude but at least they love their country.
My only complaint with Canada is how liberal we are with immigrants. Let's slow it down a little and beat the attitude out of them that their religion and beliefs matter to anyone else.
Sure, pray to Allah, but you aren't: A) carrying a knife because its some sort of honor blade, b) wearing a balaclava for your passport... wtf? C) Im singing Merry Fucking Christmas, go back to where you came from if that bothers you.
Firstly the religious knife carriers are Sikh, not Muslims. It's a part of Sikh culture to wear a knife, lucky underwear, and several other things. Probably from the warring days of older India, obviously not relevant anymore. I've had Sikh friends but they never carried a knife with them. Knives in schools = NO NO
Secondly I completely agree with everything else you say. I come from a background of very religious Pakistanis. Their views and judgements are so clouded with their beliefs and they won't accept anything that doesn't "follow the religion" and will bicker and argue until they are satisfied, religiously. All hell broke loose when my parents found out I voted No on Prop 8 (a measure which would ban same-sex marriage in California). I'm not gay but hey let people live how they want you know. I too say Merry Christmas and I don't even celebrate it.
Western countries really need to severely restrict immigration for a few decades.
Goes entirely against what the EU stands for though. And all these conservatives that complain about immigrants coming and undercutting british workers...well if more people were prepared to do those jobs in the first place we wouldn't have this issue.
It sucks but if there is ever going to be any future for a united Europe that can work together to break down cultural and racist barriers, you have to start somewhere. Swings and roundabouts, eventually English will have spread widely enough to other countries that people won't wont to live in an overcrowded UK anymore and will move
I can imagine that would seem quite scary to some but the world is becoming a smaller place. Either we all blow each other up or we learn to get along :P
Im all for equality, but Christmas is part of Canadian culture. Having some immigrant tell me its ignorant to celebrate our culture in schools is hands down the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
That being said my dealer is a vietnamese guy... I fully support his citizenship
Im all for equality, but Christmas is part of Canadian culture. Having some immigrant tell me its ignorant to celebrate our culture in schools is hands down the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
That being said my dealer is a vietnamese guy... I fully support his citizenship
I really haven't had the Christmas issue ever. I can't think of a time when someone told me I can't celebrate or gave me a mean look.
But a lot of immigrants are given jobs over British people. If you look at, for example, retail shops, immigrants are employed by the droves, yet young British people are forced onto benefits being unable to even find simple retail jobs. I know from experience (I was a retail manager) that senior management who do most of the hiring employ immigrants because they'll do anything for money. You can tell them to work 60 hour weeks and do all kinds of tasks that British people would never do because they know what their rights are. I believe that it should be mandatory for all businesses to employ someone born in the UK over anyone else if he/she has similar experience or skills for the job.
I do agree that the modern world is driven by globalization and if you don't adapt you'll get left behind. I'm actually for it. However, I don't think that it should be done at the expense of the local population when they're highly against it because of the rate at which it is happening. Forcing tons of immigrants on a population then implying that you're racist if you speak out is just compounding the problem. A reason why I'm probably voting UKIP at the next general election.
But a lot of immigrants are given jobs over British people. If you look at, for example, retail shops, immigrants are employed by the droves, yet young British people are forced onto benefits being unable to even find simple retail jobs. I know from experience (I was a retail manager) that senior management who do most of the hiring employ immigrants because they'll do anything for money. You can tell them to work 60 hour weeks and do all kinds of tasks that British people would never do because they know what their rights are. I believe that it should be mandatory for all businesses to employ someone born in the UK over anyone else if he/she has similar experience or skills for the job.
I do agree that the modern world is driven by globalization and if you don't adapt you'll get left behind. I'm actually for it. However, I don't think that it should be done at the expense of the local population when they're highly against it because of the rate at which it is happening. Forcing tons of immigrants on a population then implying that you're racist if you speak out is just compounding the problem. A reason why I'm probably voting UKIP at the next general election.
I wouldn't have called you an outright racist for speaking out. Especially since what you've just said isn't racially motivated. But with regards to the retail sector, is it their fault for doing whatever it takes to support their families back home or the management that will willfully abuse their human rights.
It's ridiculous that in an age where we frown on North Korea and China for what they do in their borders, in the labour market we aren't exactly a shining star.
I will say though that the benefits culture that was created by New Labour is a fucking cancerous issue that has helped cause this. The fact that people were just having kids for income is disgusting and I don't mean the people, how can a system work like that? And now we have to deal with all these cuts to try and curb some of it back.
Canada is different, we keep catering to immigrants who have different beliefs. There is no christmas or halloween allowed in schools round my area because of them. I dont care bout the religious aspect, its just frustrating. As a kid, I looked forward all year for shit like halloween and christmas. In the wise words of southpark.. dey took er jobs!!
It's ridiculous that in an age where we frown on North Korea and China for what they do in their borders, in the labour market we aren't exactly a shining star.
fucking what?
north korea are running forced labour camps and apparently we are doing things worse?
It's ridiculous that in an age where we frown on North Korea and China for what they do in their borders, in the labour market we aren't exactly a shining star.
fucking what?
north korea are running forced labour camps and apparently we are doing things worse?
Where did I say worse? Where on earth did you read that? Start learning to read you illiterate twat, I said "we aren't exactly a shining star", meaning that we have a few problems of our own we should look to
If it were army vs army fighting for objectives and shutting down enemy infrastructure, that was was over in the first 90 days. Even when Iraq was the 3rd or 4th 'best' military in the world when we initially invaded.
Only if you measure "best" as "big and relatively well equipped." Iraq was "best" in the same way that North Korea is best. They have a big military and not completely ancient hardware. Many smaller militaries have much more advanced hardware and are not really much of a comparison.
I'm on the same wavelength as what you wrote for the rest for the most part I think though. As you say, warfare as we know it is over, and that is why I found the original premise of what we were talking about so silly. Countries are inter-dependent economically so it does not make business sense to go to war. In the information age wars are more and more at the mercy of public opinion; common people don't have much appetite to see catastrophic loses in money and people without a pretty good reason. I would say then that forget WMDs, popular opinion is just as powerful a deterrent for war as mutually assured destruction. People don't even want to be inconvenienced let alone have their government run the risk of getting them blown up.
Even if somehow the United States and China somehow went to war, much to the economic detriment of each, the end game would be perplexing to say the least. Neither country would be able to invade the other for obvious reasons, so it would be fought from the air and the sea. Sure the United States is superior in these regards and would probably "win" (if you call winning destroying Chinese infrastructure and decimating their army more than the US was damaged and not much else). That's not even talking about the use of nuclear weapons though. Then it gets really tricky how that would ever happen and how the United States would ever come out in a position where they have "won" anything.
China doesn't have to defeat us in a military war. They can purchase our lands or take them for failure to pay our own debt. These guys are smart they've been around a long time, and they are so patient. They already bought Hollywood and are now trying to purchase the newspapers. Politicians are for sale. We agreed that foreign companies can give money to our politicians for campaigning. Anyways, you can keep waiting for a military conflict. In the meantime the news you are watching and reading to tell you how that plays out... and shapes your opinion... aww yeah.
"The abundance of political cash in the 2012 presidential election due to the rise of the super PACs in the wake of the Citizens United decision is causing concern about campaign donation disclosure. Whether super PACs are an obstacle to democracy or a manifestation of First Amendment rights, it is clear that donor disclosure is blatantly absent."
America has assured that anyone in a military conflict will also be destroyed. So war has to be economical. I remember when people were freaking out about Japan purchasing everything over here, and that has been pretty beneficial. With China I think it is a bit different as they are very oppressive.
China does that with alot of western releases and 100% of them if they ha e any negativity portrayed Chinese people or place. Skyfall had a bunch of stuff edited from their Chinese scenes or some reasonm
Google built a working model over there for control over the internet. With everything being logged in a database here now, and out it in the open, it already subtlety influences what you are posting. I'm sure there are upsides to that but at the same time it's kind of scary that you can be halfway paying attention and then this happens...
Chinas infrastructure is crap. They would be easy conquered by the red white and blue.
"Easily conquered" like N. Veitnam, N. Korea and Afghanistan was ? Actually trying to remember when the last war was when USA won... Oh, thats right. WW2... With the help of others.
It's ridiculous that in an age where we frown on North Korea and China for what they do in their borders, in the labour market we aren't exactly a shining star.
fucking what?
north korea are running forced labour camps and apparently we are doing things worse?
Where did I say worse? Where on earth did you read that? Start learning to read you illiterate twat, I said "we aren't exactly a shining star", meaning that we have a few problems of our own we should look to
youve clearly said that it's wrong of us to frown on north korea for forced labour camps that are basically genocide
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there is a lot of arguments here about how people want to rename "australia day" to "multicultralism day" and shit like that
they want the australian flag to be hidden at all times because it is offensive.
i think a lot of it is stories people have made up to try and push their agenda that immigrants are bad though
still i'd hate to think these people are coming to a foreign country and instead of adopting the culture or accepting it, they are pushing for their own
@Azalieo Talking about these knives in particular that they apparently wear, there was this 15 or 16 year old kid who brought a big blade... like at least 7 or 8" to school.
Secondly I completely agree with everything else you say. I come from a background of very religious Pakistanis. Their views and judgements are so clouded with their beliefs and they won't accept anything that doesn't "follow the religion" and will bicker and argue until they are satisfied, religiously. All hell broke loose when my parents found out I voted No on Prop 8 (a measure which would ban same-sex marriage in California). I'm not gay but hey let people live how they want you know. I too say Merry Christmas and I don't even celebrate it.
It sucks but if there is ever going to be any future for a united Europe that can work together to break down cultural and racist barriers, you have to start somewhere. Swings and roundabouts, eventually English will have spread widely enough to other countries that people won't wont to live in an overcrowded UK anymore and will move
I can imagine that would seem quite scary to some but the world is becoming a smaller place. Either we all blow each other up or we learn to get along :P
That being said my dealer is a vietnamese guy... I fully support his citizenship
I do agree that the modern world is driven by globalization and if you don't adapt you'll get left behind. I'm actually for it. However, I don't think that it should be done at the expense of the local population when they're highly against it because of the rate at which it is happening. Forcing tons of immigrants on a population then implying that you're racist if you speak out is just compounding the problem. A reason why I'm probably voting UKIP at the next general election.
It's ridiculous that in an age where we frown on North Korea and China for what they do in their borders, in the labour market we aren't exactly a shining star.
I will say though that the benefits culture that was created by New Labour is a fucking cancerous issue that has helped cause this. The fact that people were just having kids for income is disgusting and I don't mean the people, how can a system work like that? And now we have to deal with all these cuts to try and curb some of it back.
north korea are running forced labour camps and apparently we are doing things worse?
I'm on the same wavelength as what you wrote for the rest for the most part I think though. As you say, warfare as we know it is over, and that is why I found the original premise of what we were talking about so silly. Countries are inter-dependent economically so it does not make business sense to go to war. In the information age wars are more and more at the mercy of public opinion; common people don't have much appetite to see catastrophic loses in money and people without a pretty good reason. I would say then that forget WMDs, popular opinion is just as powerful a deterrent for war as mutually assured destruction. People don't even want to be inconvenienced let alone have their government run the risk of getting them blown up.
Even if somehow the United States and China somehow went to war, much to the economic detriment of each, the end game would be perplexing to say the least. Neither country would be able to invade the other for obvious reasons, so it would be fought from the air and the sea. Sure the United States is superior in these regards and would probably "win" (if you call winning destroying Chinese infrastructure and decimating their army more than the US was damaged and not much else). That's not even talking about the use of nuclear weapons though. Then it gets really tricky how that would ever happen and how the United States would ever come out in a position where they have "won" anything.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/canadian-foreign-donation-super-pac-restore-our-future
http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/markets/item/11537-china-buys-hollywood-influence-with-takeover-of-top-us-cinema-chain
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/07/10/chinese-to-spend-billions-on-american-real-estate/
"The abundance of political cash in the 2012 presidential election due to the rise of the super PACs in the wake of the Citizens United decision is causing concern about campaign donation disclosure. Whether super PACs are an obstacle to democracy or a manifestation of First Amendment rights, it is clear that donor disclosure is blatantly absent."
Movies I have heard that China altered already:
World War Z
Red Dawn Remake
http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/02/news/companies/china-new-york-times/
America has assured that anyone in a military conflict will also be destroyed. So war has to be economical. I remember when people were freaking out about Japan purchasing everything over here, and that has been pretty beneficial. With China I think it is a bit different as they are very oppressive.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/12/tech/social-media/facebook-jailed-teen/
http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks
Actually trying to remember when the last war was when USA won... Oh, thats right.
WW2... With the help of others.
dont try to put it down to a 'misunderstanding'